It is a carpenter's axiom to "measure twice, cut once". This means that you should check your measurements to be sure they are correct before ruining a piece of wood by cutting it to the wrong size.
As genealogists, we can learn from that statement. I always thought that my great-grandfather, James, never traveled outside of the British Isles. Boy, was I wrong.
My son didn't accept this as readily as I did. He checked the emigration lists at the Ellis Island site. He found an entry for great-grandfather and great-grandmother entering the US in 1921. This entry provided his birth place and opened a whole new area of research for us.
The moral of this story: Don't accept anything, even a negative concept, as fact until you have proven it beyond all possible doubt.
Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2000 12:25:33 -0600 (CST)
From: Maura Petzolt
Subject: [SH] Re: Ship Lines
"If you are looking for an arrival, you need to look at the port of arrival, and not worry about where they left from necessarily.
"Irish emigrants either left from Queenstown (Cork), or Liverpool, depending on where in Ireland they were and if they went to live there for a time before boarding. That's why so many researchers are under the misconception that their relatives came "from Cork". Some also left from Edinburgh, or even London.
"In any case, if you know where they arrived, and hopefully a time frame, you can rather easily search the microfilms of arrivals for that port. Use the information on my Hints page, url below, for both NY arrivals and Other US ports."
Webmaster's Note: Maura's site no longer exists.
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 08:13:04 -0800
From: Ellen Naliboff firstname.lastname@example.org
Subject: Re: [SH] MONAGHAN/GILL - Ireland to USA 1800's
"Registration of non-Catholic marriages began in 1845 in Ireland. Registration of births, marriages and deaths, regardless of religion, began January 1, 1864. The obligation to register these events rested on the public and failure to do so carried hefty fines. Birth certificates include the date and place of birth; the name; the sex; the name, surname and residence of the father; the name, surname, maiden surname of the mother; the rank, profession or occupation of the father; and the name and qualifications of the informant, usually a family member. A given name was not obligatory, so some entries are Kelly, Male or Clarke, Female. The FHLC holds microfilm copies of the index and certificates for 1864-1955.
"Fees are payable in Irish punts and cash (Irish, Sterling, US dollars) for any amount but the minimum amount for a check drawn on a non-Irish bank is 12.70 Euro.
"A photocopy of an entry will contain the same details as a certificate but is not suitable for administrative matters, however, it is ideal for genealogical purposes. Photocopy (including search fee) is Irish punts 3.0 and Certificate (including search fee) is Irish punts 5.50. If more than one certificate relating to the death of the same person is required an additional fee of 4.00 Irish punts should be sent for each extra certificate.
"Births, Death and Roman Catholic marriages certificates are available from
General Registrar Office
8-11 Lombard Street East
Dublin 2 Ireland
"Or, do it yourself: Use the INDEX to Births, Marriages, and Deaths
available at the Family History Library Catalog. Records are indexed
nationwide, then Registrar's Districts (not counties) are reported.
However, the record gives the residence (the townland in rural Ireland).
Marriage Index, 1845-1921 (Catholic marriages begin with 1864)
Marriage records, 1845-1870 in FHLC
Birth Index 1864-1955; Records 1864-1881 and 1900-1955 (note the gaps
1882-1899 and 1913-1930 in the FHLC). Some pages are missing from
1869: p. 49-50 (gap between Carroll, John, of Dungannon and Carvill,
James Richard, of Limerick; and all pages following Thompson, Elenor
Jane, of Belfast.
"Deaths Index, 1864-1921; Records, 1864-1870"
WebMaster Note: The punt is the Irish language word for pound. It is also no longer the currency of exchange. Since Ireland is now in the EuroZone, the Euro is the currency of use. Charges for documents will usually remain stable, but exchange rates fluctuate daily. It would be best to contact the agency for current charges and exchange rates.